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Clan of the Cougar Slayers: A Young Girl’s Family Secret

11-year-old Shelby White grabbed headlines when she reportedly shot a cougar stalking her brother in rural Washington state. But there's a bit more to the story—the White family actually has a long, bloody history of poaching endangered wolves and other wildlife

Shelby White’s shot was heard round the world. But her family’s cold-blooded past didn’t make it into the newspaper reports.

The 11-year-old girl captured hearts and headlines last week when she reportedly whipped out a rifle and bravely gunned down a cougar sneaking up behind her brother in rural Washington. It wasn’t the first time the White family has drummed up publicity for killing exotic animals.

Shelby White strikes a pose with the cougar she killed.
(Courtesy William White)

The pint-size slayer comes from a clan of convicted poachers that slaughtered a pair of endangered gray wolves and tried to smuggle their skins across the U.S. border a few years ago. The revelation, absent in the mainstream media accounts of the Shelby’s cougar killing, recasts the tale of the adorable deadeye and has caused the history of her kin to resurface.

“The Whites are known sons of bitches,” says Mitch Friedman, executive director of Conservation Northwest, which has championed wolf recovery in the region. “I don’t think anyone is the least bit surprised that they remain in the news.”

Authorities first caught wind of the White clan’s illegal killings in 2008 when a FedEx employee stumbled across a blood-soaked parcel postmarked for Canada. The sender, eventually identified as Shelby’s mother, Erin White, used a bogus name and phone number and claimed the package contained a rug, according to federal prosecutors.

11-year-old Shelby White reportedly slayed the cougar last month at her grandfather's ranch near Twisp, Washington.
(Courtesy William White)

Instead of a rug, authorities discovered that the sodden parcel contained a wolf hide belonging to a butchered member of the Lookout Pack, the first gray wolves to repopulate Washington since the 1930s. The pack, protected under state law and the Endangered Species Act, roamed an area near the White’s 700-acre ranch in the Methow Valley, which rests of the eastern slope of the North Cascades.

Tom White, Shelby’s father, copped to killing the wolf. Federal agents later found evidence that he slayed a second member of the Lookout Pack and that Shelby’s grandfather, William White, had concocted a conspiracy to kill wolves and smuggle a wolf hide into Canada. Agents also discovered the elder White had a penchant for poaching animals, including big game he unlawfully shot in Canada and snuck back into the U.S.

Tom White, Shelby's father, poses with an endangered wolf he shot and killed back in 2008.
(Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife)

In 2012, the White family pleaded guilty to a host of federal charges, including conspiracy to kill an endangered species, conspiracy to export an endangered species and unlawful importation of wildlife. William and Tom White also pleaded guilty to state charges of illegally hunting bears with dogs.

The family managed to dodge jail time, but had to fork over more than $70,000 in fines, the Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported. William White was sentenced to six months of home detention, while his son was sentenced to three months.

As a result of their convictions, both White men also lost their hunting licenses. But that hasn’t stopped Tom White’s children from apparently picking off animals left and right, most notably the cougars that have flocked to the Methow Valley.

Shelby White was not the first of her siblings to bag one of the wildcats this winter, her grandfather William White tells Vocativ in a phone interview. Cody, her 9-year-old brother, blasted a 120-pound cougar earlier in February. Shelby’s 14-year-old brother Tanner also killed one on the family’s property that month, White says.

Shelby's younger brother, 9-year-old Cody, poses with a cougar he slayed earlier in February. It was his first cougar kill.
(Courtesy William White)

“Their dad has been showing the kids how to track them every weekend,” White says, adding that all three children had tags to hunt cougars. White says the wildcats have become a scourge in the area since state lawmakers banned cougar hunting with hound dogs in 1996.

Cougar sightings and encounters have been unusually high in the Methow Valley this winter, say wildlife officials, though they’ve been unable to pinpoint a precise reason. At least 10 cougars have been killed in the area alone this winter by hunters or state officials, the Methow Valley News reported.

Four of those killings have occurred on the White ranch, according to the family.

Cougars can pose a threat to livestock and sometimes humans, William White says. The big cat that Shelby White shot on Feb. 20 may have been stalking her older brother Tanner. The boy had just entered the family’s home from outside when Tom White spotted the animal in the driveway, the grandfather says.

A photo of a calf allegedly killed by a cougar on the White ranch in February.
(Courtesy William White)

“My son yelled, ‘Shelby, grab your gun,” says William White. The girl trained her .270-caliber rifle on the animal and gunned it down from about 10 feet away.

Wildlife officials say the animal was an emaciated female that weighed 50 pounds. It was likely starving to death. Because her father and grandfather are barred from hunting and because her brothers already bagged cougars this year, Shelby was the sole person in the family that could legally kill the wildcat, her grandfather says.

“The reason my granddaughter shot the cougar was because she was only one in our family that had a tag,” William White says. “We’re trying to follow the law as best we can.”

Still, given the White family’s history with hunting, the cougar killings raised eyebrows among Friedman and other members of Washington’s environmental community.

A photo of the wolf pelt that Erin White, Shelby's mom, allegedly tried to send to friends in Canada.
(Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife)

“It certainly smells a little funny,” Friedman says, “even if the superficial news is intriguing, compelling and lawful.”

William White brushes his family’s critics aside.

“These cougars have lost their fear of man,” he says. “It’s either them or us.”

 

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  • “Slew” is the past tense of “slay.” 

  • Sorry, all I heard was “wah wah wah, I don’t like hunting”.

  • Maybe these people should stay inside there cabin and watch reruns of Dave Crocket and the Beverly Hillbillies instead of walking around looking for cats to kill.

  • Good thing no one reads this website.

  • “These cougars have lost their fear of man,” he says. “It’s either them or us.”With the White familiy’s track record, I’m coming down on the side of the cougars. They clearly have no respect for law.

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  • Defending people or livestock is understandable. However, posing proudly with the bloody corpse is a habit of many hunters that I don’t understand. One might reasonably wonder if the family is somehow baiting th cougars to come onto their property so they can shoot them and claim even a starving, underweight cougar was “tracking” one of the kids.

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    • THAT’S A VALID IDEA!  IT’S A GAME TO THIS FAMILY.

    • Smart observation.  I think you might very well be right. Why else would a cougar go near the Whites.  I bet that family has a special reputation amongst the cougars as well.  

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    • Are you really this stupid? You don’t understand that starving animals are the most likely to attack humans?

  • Well, my guess is that this is neither sport nor accident but the way they make their living, selling non-renewable animal products (hides, fur, bone products)from slightly exotic animals. I wouldn’t be surprised if dead animals are left out to attract these predators since there is more money in that than what they raise.Nothing more than long term jail or death of the perpetrators is likely to end that as long as there exists a market for these products.

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    • We need to put you in jail.

  • These people are killing animals that are predators…. Humans have to be on the food chain somewhere I prefer to be at the top, if you don’t then by all means douse yourself in pig blood and walk the woods of washington then tell me how much you hate people defending their livestock and livelyhood. Good on you Whites! Keep nocking those predators down!

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    • Don;t you have a Ted Nugent concert or a Tea Bagger rally to get to?

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      • Don’t you have a baby to murder you evil leftist?

    • Native Americans lived in the area and had no problems with the wildlife.  Problems only began with wildlife until settlers move only the land and killed off the Native Americans there.  Their next mistake was bringing in non-native livestock, after denuding much of the landscape and killing off the predators food.  You have only yourselfs to blame for their change in the menu.Redfox the warrior.

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      • How would you know they too were not stalked and killed by wild animals? I’am confident their children had similar incidents, but I realize it wasn’t in the Huff Post of late. Indians wore their dried pelts for God sakes – so they killed them for food, safety, and to accessorize!

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      • Accessory!?! Are you stupid the killed for food and necessity. How ever they did not waste a thing!!! So the made weapons clothes shelter and ate. 

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      • Are you stupid!?! Native Americans were known to be lazy hunters. They would run herds of buffalo over a cliff, take what they could haul, and leave the rest to rot. I see the same thing today where they over fish salmon with nets that go across the rivers that they catch so many, whatever don’t fit in their trucks is thrown on the banks to rot. They are just as guilty of slaughter and are not the saints you make them out to be.

      • You’ve been to university.

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    • A lot of people still don’t understand that predators are a necessary and integral part of the biosphere. Predators like wolves and cougars keep their prey animals from overextending their environment. It’s not a matter of “whose on top”; it’s more of a complicated relationship that has gone on for thousands of years. Yes, it’s okay to kill animals for food and clothing, and if emmidiately necessary, to protect life and property, but what the White’s are doing is pure butchery. Going on predator shooting sprees won’t keep humans on top of the food chain; it will only make us the first to go when we have destroyed the natural environment we depend on.

    • Yeah, ok. But science has started to release reports stating that killing off too many predators will upset the balance of nature in catastrohpic ways. People shouldn’t mess with nature when it’s not fully understood what the concequences will be. You realize what will happen when humans are at the top of the food chain for too long? We’ll starve ourselves. It will happen. The Whites are just killers. They’re not killing for any important reason, like to stay alive. They just kill for fun. Poor animals. 

  • This is sad these people should be in jail!

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    • You should be in jail.

  • Would all of you people quit killing SHI*.  For God’s sake I could see if you were hungry but to kill animals for sport is just ruthless.  Hopefully one of them will get one or two of you down the road.

  • i supported reintroduction of wolves into past territory from which they were driven, what some ecological do gooders forget is that they have only been introduced to areas where hopefully man still has a small footprint that doesn’t mean there are no humans in that area. quite a few man and wolf encounters will end well but some won’t and it shouldn’t surprise folks that read vocativ. while this family seems out of ordinary i haven’t met any cattle ranchers in wyoming or montana around yellowstone park that are entirely behind the wolves with no reservations. are vacativ supporters donating money to pay for cattle and sheep losses to these ranchers or just mouthing off in disgust. i would give the girl the benfit of the doubt as before i even read the article the picture alone told me that she bagged a starving animal that had lost fear due to hunger. if the family had legal tags for cougars from the state it doesn’t matter that they succeeded in filling them legally.

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    • Has there been any thought given to reasons why the animal was starving?  Probably humans had killed off their food source is the reason.  Or the reason is that the animal was injured, say by being shot, and could not hunt.

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      • So that’s reason enough for the cougar to kill the kid??? 

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      • They live in an area known for cougars and the kid was already in the house with the cougar standing out in the driveway… the kid was so terribly worried the cougar was in kill mode that he took the time to make sure only the tagged family member shot it?  Yeah i don’t think this can be misconstrued as ‘was in fear for her brothers life’…

    • Sadly, those lands are being goobled up without any restraint.  There is even a suggestion in Congress and State Legislatures that all Parks, Preserves, and Reservations (Native American land) be returned to the States or that the land should be sold to the higgest bidder.  Alaska is in the process of taking control of Native Lands as we talk.  And yep, they are selling the land at outragious prices so that the Native Americans cannot buy back their land.

  • THIS….this, is “SURPRISING” to ANYone ?   Give EVERY SANE HUMAN-BEING in this COUNTRY a break…CONSERVATIVE, re-TREAD, RIGHT-WING Whacko’s, have came to power, and COURTED EVERY, single fringe LUNATIC group in this nation of ours…ALL in an effort to pander, garner support and win elections from the ONLY GROUPS out there in AMERICA who could even IMAGINE supporting this bunch of fruit-loopin’ Loonie-Tunes.  It SHOULD not be at ALL an UNEXPECTED TURN OF EVENTS, when you have eleven(11) year old little girls, posing proudly, “KILLER-SMIRK” FIRMLY in place, posing with what looks to me like an emaciated Cougar. GREAT WHITE REPUBLICAN HUNTERS…YOU should ALL BE SO PROUD…

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    • Hey, they do love the NRA.

    • I am proud. I am proud that if I was in this situation where I had a wild animal about to attack one of my loved one, regardless of it’s condition, that I would put it down.  Hopefully with the largest caliber rifle I had so I would get the job done in one shot.  

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      • “about to attack”?! Riiight. LoL

  • I do not believe a word from that family.

  • Don’t give wolves a bad name by calling these people a ‘predatory wolf pack’, when in fact, they are a predatory pack of humans.

  • Don’t give wolves a bad name by calling these people a ‘predatory wolf pack’, when in fact, they are a predatory pack of humans.

  • absolutely D-I-S-G-U-S-T-I-N-G!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am completely appalled… 

  • I must question Shane’s misuse of adjectives. “Coguars flock”. Usually, that term is used for birds. I would question Shane’s knowledge of wildlife in general.mp 

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    • …and that was fairly important in all that.

  • I’m just a couple of watersheds away from those folks…smells like they’re baiting these cats.

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    • Well, sheep ranches do have a tendency to attract predators genius.

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      • …and OF COURSE, we, as TAX-PAYING AMERICAN CITIZENS reimburse these same ranchers and farmers EACH and EVERY TIME one of their “flock” gets killed by a Wild Animal whose ONLY “crime” is trying to eek out a living on what WE PEOPLE have left them…which, if you ask ANY HONEST REALTOR, (I know, I know..that was an OXY-MORON and PARADOX if ever…), they’ll tell you is appallingly little.

  • If they die, by any manner, I won;t shed a tear

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    • That is exactly the same way I feel about you.

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      • Chances are he could probably whoop your arse and not break a sweat “genius”

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      • Woohoo, internet tough guys. Quite impressive.

  • sociopathic tendencies.

  • It’s deeply disconcerting to see children shooting living beings for no real reason. Sorry, that’s my view. Children in that age are not able to make an informed decision on their own. They do what their parents tell them is right, not was in right in an unbiased view. Well, many adults are not able to get rid of what their ancestors did either. They just go with whatever they like to hear. It’s hard for them to arrive in the 21th century obviously. Anyways, anybody noticed the poor state the victim, the cougar, was in?

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    • lets see how deepy disconcerted you are if it was one of your loved ones being stalked by a big cat as for her dicision that day obviously it was the correct one or no wait, you would probab ly perfer it ate her little brother

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      • Obviously, he wasn’t in much danger if only one person responded to the incident. If they had to wait for the only one person who could legally kill it, the kid could have gone inside and closed the door.

    • Children at that age are able choose what interests they may like and dislike, and it wouldn’t be right for you as a parent to prohibit them from a healthy outdoor activity. Most of these children you see going on shooting rampages in schools and streets were raised by parents with uneducated opinions just like yours- look what happened. I have many friends who hunt and fish and their parents never did… so your entire opinion is biased. Some arrival to the 21st Century.

  • I’m glad this bunch of psychos live way out in the sticks.  Otherwise, they would be gunning down humans.

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      • As opposed to the psychos who live in Chicago, NY, LA, etc. who gun down humans?  Many, many more people are slaughtered in your so-called “sophisticated” cities with their gun control laws than are killed “out in the sticks”.

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      • I agree with the fact that something needs to be done regarding gun control. No more innocent people dying, nor innocent animals. These crooks, whatever they are, need to be caught and sentenced. 

  • Sad, sad little shrubbies helping their fellow men vilify women and girls as murdering animals. Shelby should turn her gun on this blogging whore of the psuedoliberals and their gay neoconservative lovers.If you disagree with this post, you’re the one who’s subhuman and your views are therefore rejected as worthless and invalid. 

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    • Be still you sad pathetic little worm

  • This is a bunch of evironmentalists drumming up things from the past-SOME of which were illegal and some were not. Obviously living in an area where the animals are regularly encountered its entirely possible the cat was being a menace. I dont advocte or approve of the abuse, killing outside of hunting or defense, or wasting of wildlife of any kind, but all you couch environmentalists who dont live in areas like I do, and reguarly have to defend life and livestock or domestic animals from these predators have no skin in the game and talk is cheap for you. I also ntice many of you dont mind eating your steak, your chicken, pork ect, as long as you dont have to see it killed. Animals are animals, and maybe if you had to look the cow in the face and put the steel rod through its head, youd have room to talk, as it is your hypocrits. Endangered or not these animals cant be allowed to menace people. And for the record the cluess person who thinks it “easy” and “wimpy” to hunt with a rifle has obviously never hunted. 

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    • I personally watched a pack of wolves , slaughter 6 elk who were floundering in deep snow . Didn’t eat the meat , just on to the next kill . The only good wolf , is a dead wolf . I purpose a tag for the individuals who are ‘ restocking , ‘ wolves .

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      • I have seen the same. People who mistakenly claim wolves only kill the old and sick have never set foot in the wilderness. They believe the disney version of wilderness.

  • It is illegal for a convicted felon to have access to firearms, as that is considered possession. As I understand it, the gun used was easily and quickly accessible so its reasonable to conclude that it was also just as accessible to all the convicted felons living in that house, Tom White, Erin White, and William White. The guns must both be under the control (possession) and belong to someone that can legally posses them and by law they cannot be accessible to felons. So a good question would be, who do those guns belong to? Do they belong to 11-year-old Shelby White? I did not know it was legal for 11 year-olds to own firearms.

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      • You are very incorrect SCOOB (Brian). All three of them are convicted felons, and here is the proof with source citations. That’s so funny, I have never been called a hippie by anybody that knows me because of all the guns I own. I do believe in following the law and these people obviously have no respect for gun laws or hunting laws or any law. So Brian you should not be defending them because it gives law abiding gun owners like us a bad reputation. “Twisp rancher Tom White and his wife pleaded guilty to federal felony charges of killing and conspiring to export the pelt of a protected species.” Source – king5.com “William White agreed to plead guilty” Source – nwsportsmanmag.com “The plea agreements anticipates that the United States and William D. White will jointly recommend that William White serve a period of three years of probation and to pay criminal fines, restitution, and other penalties totaling $38,500. In addition, William White agreed to forfeit firearms and other items related to the violations.” Source – nwsportsmanmag.com

    • Check your sources. Tom and Erin White were not convicted of felonies. They lost the firearms related to the incidents, not thier rights to own or possess firearms. I’m not defending them, just correcting your ignorance. Bill White has his own house. He is the felon. Keep your eye on the ball. A starving wild cougar came within 10 feet of the home looking for a meal, possibly a human one. In a show of ethics, they got the one legal person in the home with a tag to dispatch the animal. Sounds like they have learned thier lesson. Why not ask why that cougar is starving? Because of tree-huggers making legislation without considering the long-term effects. Liberals are responsible for the mass slaughter of cervine at the claws of unchecked cougar and bear. A decade later, the numbers of predators cannot be sustained and you get this. Protect one species, decimate another, your stupid laws wipe out both. Good job!

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    • Wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong. How are you able to function in the world operating under so many misperceptions and misunderstandings? I hope you dont drive, you are a meanace to society.

  • City folk and suburbanites will have one take on this, but country people are in their own world, the natural world, one where food does not come from a factory. This is clearly a family of hunters, and they have as little regard for the law as many of their kith do. They have a ranch, so they’d obviously lost stock to pumas and wolves. BTW, Mr. Wildlife Journalist, “slay” is a strong verb. Children of immigrants may say “slayed” because they opine English verbs all to end with “-ed”, but if you were born here, and your family is middle class, you have no excuse for butchering the English language, while complaining about country people butchering predators that butcher their livestock. Go directly to school, do not pass “GO”, do not collect $200.

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    • you and your family are predatory animals.  Your logic means we can happily shoot you and take photos.  Glad we cleared that up.

  • For a Christian theologian (anyone who believes in God as He is revealed in the person of Jesus Christ), the value of a human has to do with Who his or her Creator is.  God is a Father Who relates to people as His sons and daughters.  The rights of men and women therefore derive from how their Creator relates to them as Father.  As to the rest of creation, its purpose is to serve the ones to whom God relates as Father.  God’s children are called to be stewards of creation, on the other hand, not abusing it but using it to bring glory to God. Every kind of act committed by humans can be sinful, if it is not balanced and doesn’t represent moderation.  Too much unnecessary killing of animals is not wise.  It represents an abuse of created things.  It is wasteful.  But the killing of living things, other than humans, is often necessary to sustain life.  Humans have to use and consume living things from all the kingdoms of life in order to live, whether they are plants, animals, protists, fungi or bacteria.  This is the way God has made it.  But this needs to be balanced, lest too many living things are killed or used unnecessarily.  It is therefore conceivable, for a Christian theologian, that there is nothing inherently wrong with killing an animal, if it is necessary to sustain human life.

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    • Can we have open hunting season on these inbred SOBs?  Please.

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      • GREAT IDEA!

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      • Advocating the murder of another human being? Wow, how civilzed of you.

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      • Toothless hillbillies like you don’t mind “advocating the murder of another human being” if said human being is non-white.

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      • Wow, what an incredibly racist statment to make. You do not have any idea what color I am, nor are you aware that I have never had a cavity in my life. Yet you presume to “know” me. Well, listen here buster, your brain is hard wired to see race in everything. That makes YOU a RACIST. seek help, you are damaged and deficient.

  • Charming.  I wonder how people who are up in arms about this would feel if wolves or cougars were stalking their own homes.  I think if push came to shove, the cougar or wolf would be toast.  The world is topsy turvy.  Some people think of animals as having more rights than humans.  Some of the comments here reflect this idea that it would have been better for members of the family to have been killed than that these animals be killed. We eat animals and use them for other purposes, including building and sustaining our homes.  Humans have done this for millenia.   End of story.  Let’s get the hierarchy right:  Humans are at the top of the food chain and let’s keep it that way. If we have to choose between animals and humans as to who should be allowed to live, humans should win every time.  Animals do not have an inherent right to live, since they may at any moment be called upon to serve the needs of humanity in many ways.  That animals are allowed to live is entirely a social construct which is shifting.  Today’s pet may be on tomorrow’s dinner plate, if it becomes necessary.

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    • Wolves and cougars do NOT hunt humans, nor are they food for humans.  They are predators, they’re rare, and they’re going to be wiped out if people think it’s OK to shoot them for sport.  This was a lie, these people killed God’s creatures for the thrill of it, and it shouldn’t be allowed.

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      • So you are an expert on wolf and cougar behavior are you? Funny, I have lived in the mountains of Idaho my whole life and aI completely and totally dissagree with you based on my own observations. Wolves and cougars DO hunt anything they want. By saying something as stupid as, they dont hunt humans,” you are anthropomorphising an animal which doesnt not have a human brain able to make such distinctions.In other words, you are insane. 

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      • Again, hillbilly Bob, please back away from the computer and go brush your tooth.

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      • See my statment above. Never had a cavity in my life and you K have a damaged brain that sees race into everything. You are a racist and YOU need help.

  • What a disgusting bunch of animals (the humans)!!! Why aren’t some of them in prison for poaching???

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    • You obviously dont know diddly about living on the fringe of wilderness. How about we put grizzlies and wolves and cougars in Central Park and see how you city folk handle them. Bozos like you encourage the reintroduction of a non-native specie into my backyard. Now I have wolves roaming my neighborhood and when I want to take a walk, I HAVE to carry a gun. You have NO IDEA what is going to happen when you upset the balance of nature. Unintended consequences will bite you on the ass every time

  • yeah, really really hard to kill animals with a gun! why don’t these people get real and try killing animals like cavemen or native amercians via an bow and arrow or something like such.  it’s really a wimpy move to kill with a gun and a scope. takes little skill and very wimpy!

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    • Go fu– yourself as sshole

    • why dont u try hunting your tofu with your flapping gums, moron, instead of depending on those big mean mens to harvest the sy for you,stupid hippie.

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      • Les, you are an illiterate moron. Death to animal abusers/killers.

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      • RIIIIGHT because the meat you eat at restaurants in your city didnt come from any living thing. People like you have been disconnected from reality for so long, you have begun to believe your own idealistic fantasies. Stay out of the woods bambi, you might get hurt.

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    • Instead of buying your hamburger meat from the grocery store, next time you want a burger, go kill a cow yourself. Get back in your city moron.

  • Redneck wahoo inbreds. Karma awaits.

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    • agree

    • describing yourself jon?  Karma does indeed await.  Hope one of those cougars or wolves kills your family.

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      • this is not caveman days or the wild west.  go to safeway and buy your meat…you probably wont feel as macho…..but hey its even wrapped for you so theres no dripping blood from the pkg.  and you (man)encroached on these animals homes….your the invader,stalker,hunter. and yes God made us top of the food chain, but man has abused his authority over wild animals to a point of extinction. Man is irresponsible, greedy, gluttonist, without common sence and for the whites, without a concious or soul…

  • Killing that particular cat was a mercy killing, she was emicapated which increases how dangerous she is to children and domestic animals alike. Starving animals are particularly dangerious as she demonstrated by being in their yard in broad daylight. Not normal fyi.Neither cougar nor wolves are endangered and both can be shot when they pose a threat, they pose a serious threat if seen in ones yard.We have a right to protect ourselves from wild animals or crazy people and sicko lunatics of the like posting that the children should be cougar prey. 

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    • You are stupid enough to believe their story?

    • Hey no…hate to see your foot caught in a skunk trap sut,hey , s.. happens…hope its not broke to bad … or is !!!

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    • ,,, You know what makes me sick ? ,,, People who value animals over human life !!! That’s what !!! You sick minded ,,,poison minded people need to wake up ,and get a grip ,,,We are being over-run with these kind of predators in our back yards ,but don’t worry ,,,They’ll be overflowing into the cities not too long from now ,and munching on YOUR babies ,and I imagine that  that’s when you’ll finally wake the freak up !!! ,,,

  • You all are sick to value an animal over a human being, particularly a CHILD. Get a grip on reality and focus on sense for a change.

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    • I would venture to suggest that no human life was at stake or involved…the little “killer of wildlife” just did what her A-hole parents taught her to do…they are SCUM !!!

  • To be proud of killing one of these magnificent animals….and posing for a picture…. is SICK!

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    • Go fu-k yourself you little weasel!!  

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      • You obviously have more at stake in this than an opionion. Spill it. Or are you just another mouthy a%%hole with half a brain? It’s obvious these are a bunuch of liers. The rest can’t legally hunt so this little girl just happens to be there at the right time, huh? Mom or dad shot the animal and this is the dodge. I’m not an animal over people type and have no problem with hunting for food. This MURDER and pose with pride though is BS. You obviously can’t post an educated comment so you just post BS put downs against those that do.

      • You sound highly intelligent Mr. Simpson.

  • So when all those things happened, the girl was five years old… I’m trying to figure out why you feel the need to smear her to vent your anger that her rancher family members aren’t too keen on wolves killing their livestock. 

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    • Exactly!  Just a bunch of liberals here with no sense of reality.  Morons who live in urban paradises where the only cats they see sh-t in a box under the stairs…just like them.  

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      • Another REALLY intelligent comment from Mr. Simpson.  Come on now, come out with a real original zinger like, oh I don’t know, telling me to go f**k myself.  You truly do add to the conversation.

  • 20 people have been killed by cougars in all of N. America since 1890. 20! less than dogs, less than snakebites, less than bee stings, less than lightning strikes! justification of this slaughter is not warranted

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    • Scott wolves and cougars are not endangered especially wolves.  they have a huge natural habitat in Cananda, eastern Europe Russia and Alasaka.  Bringing wolves to the lower 48 states is an act of madness and deliberate destruction  to other game that Is endangered And has no need of further predation.  Hunting by Humans is controlled take, is regulated, and game animal populations so restricted that getting anything but a deer tag requires a lottery.   Wolves destroy western livilihoods endanger pets and livestock contribute to the decline of elk, wild sheep, Coyotes, and deer and destroys many more animals than are eaten by running them so hard that later in winter they die because of loss of body fat.  his bounty then enables new born wolf pups to survive in large numbers making them even more of a hazard.  Wolves deliberately stalk and kill dogs of all types even in their owners yards and porches because their pack instinct causes them to treat any other canine as another wolf encroaching on  their territory.200 years ago when most of America was wilderness there was room for both herbivores and carnivores. Now with 300 million people in America, and wild herbivores on a limited range, wolf predation will, just as it is doing now, always result in losses to cats dogs sheep and cows as well as really endangering wild herbivores.  I favor the eradication of wolves and the culling of mountain lions and Grizzly bears anywhere south of the Canadian border.ThIs is the only rational policy.It was offical policy for 100 years and the wolf population world wide was not endangered.

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      • But, you are not a rational person. Only a fearful, disconnected fool.

      • JohnB66Y, thank you for saving me the task of posting a rational response to these absurd accusations against what is a necessary policy of predation control.  Your comments are well founded and well put.

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      • Did you know that we had no wolves except in upper Michigan until they were imported into Yellowstone to try to balance out the deer and elk eating themselves out of food…get your head out and see the truth 

      • You said it brother, smoke a pack a day!

  • Either way people are dying from fatal cat attacks. What about that young lady from a couple years ago that was employed at an animal shelter out west and was killed by one swipe of the lions paw?  She had some kind of degree in that field and her Dad was an Attorney from my memory.  Or those 2 teen females a few years back employed during the summer at that zoo who got into the wrong area, one was killed the other managed to escape over the railing.  These attacks are becoming more frequent in California too. Parents are scared to leave their children playing in the neighborhoods as the cougars are coming down from the Mountains in search of food/water into the residential areas.  What about that Island off the coast of Washington or Oregon infested with cougars.  People can not ride their bikes anymore because cougars jump on their backs as they ride by.  Rarely do people survive cat attacks.  Perhaps it is just me but I feel these people have every right to protect their livestock on their own ranch land.  The proofs are the photos of the deceased calf taken down by cougars on their land……………  

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    • Stop breeding.

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      • They shoot animals that they do not eat for fun, typical dumb rednecks. I bet they eat Hamburger helper for dinner.

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      • Andy, if you had wild animals eating your food and paycheck you might have a different perspective, as do thousands of ranchers across the west.

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      • The few ranchers across the west are more responsible for loss of elk and other wildlife then wolf reintroduction. Beside the fact these worthles SOB are feeding their cattle at the tax payers expense and degradeing the habitat for animals rangeing from sagegrouse to elk and deer the animals camp out in the riparian and degrade fish habitat and redds.Western ranchers are a scourge on the western landscape.

      • Responding to Andy O’Brien’s comment about stop breeding, sorry most of us prefer sex with humans, not canines like you prefer.

  • There really wasn’t a reason to kill this cougar… but still this is some of the most shamefully editorial journalism I’ve ever seen come out of CUNY. I can’t even call it ‘journalism’ – it is so fraught with emotive words and biased word choice. 

  • Ths story reminds me of Randy Weaver and his family who simply wanted to live peacefully in their Mountain retreat, Rudy Ridge, Idaho. The DOJ (Department of Justice) U. S. Marshall’s, ATF, FBI, U. S. Secret Service went on his property shoots his 14 yo son Sammy in the back and his wife Vicki in the back of her head carrying their 10 month old daughter Elishiba in her arms.  Both were deceased instantly.  No amt. of money our Fed. Gov’t awarded them afterwards will bring back his wife and son.  Real men do not shoot 14 yo boys in the back and women in the back of the head while carrying their babies.  Only microcephalic mentality cowards do.   R. I. P. Sammy and Vicki.  Lest we forget….we the people………………….

  • Nice chin, she looks like a young George Clooney with a wig

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    • I can only imagine how ugly and and subsequently mean-spirited someone would have to be to talk about an 11 year old girl like that.

  • I would rather have this family as friends and neighbors than any Obama follower or liberal crybaby when the country collapses

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    • die

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      • If there was a civil war between people who live in the country and hunt vs latte-sipping, Obama voting, city fags, the former would slaughter your kind.

  • So big deal Shelby shoots a Mtn. lion (cougar) stalking her bro. in order to save his life.   She should be awarded a metal for that.  Cougars are killing machines, most probably go for the neck first as their killing bite.  Rarely do any people survive a cougar attack.  They can easily take down a horse.  So the Whites in simply attempting to make a living by raising livestock on their ranch from being killed by wolves and cougars get sanctioned by the State/Fed. Gov’ts!  Outrageous and criminal!  Wolves will easily take down a moose by chasing it for miles until it is exhausted.  The Gov’t needs to keep their noses out of these people’s business.  It is their land and they should have the right to protect their livestock and their own lives (as in Shelby’s bro.) from cougars and wolves attacks………………     

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    • THERE WAS NO NEED TO KILL THIS COUGER!!! THE SON WAS ALREADY SAFE INSIDE THE HOME.  IF THEY HAD JUST WAITED, THE COUGER WOULD HAVE GOTTEN BORED AND WENT LOOKING FOR FOOD SEEING IT WAS ONLY A MEASLEY 50 POUNDS.  BUT BEING A FAMILY THAT LOVES TO KILL ILLEGALY, YOU JUST HAD TO KILL AN INNOCENT ANIMAL. WHAT DOES IT MAKE YOU FEEL BIG AND POWERFUL? WRONG, YOU ARE LOWLIFES WHO SENT THEIR TEENAGE DAUGHTER TO DO YOUR DIRTY WORK SEEING YOU LOST THE RIGHT.PEOPLE LIKE YOU SHOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO HAVE CHILDREN, HOW DARE YOU TWIST THEIR MINDS INTO THINKING THAT KILLING INNOCENT GODS CREATURES WAS COOL. YOU SICKEN MY HEART!!!    

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      • I agree with you. We lived where one had a den. Was a beautifull one and we would also hear it. One night I was within 2o feet of it. It looked at me and keep going. I had to goats, we also had coyotes in our yard at night but no a one of these went after them. But I did have a snake come after me[ a cottonmouth]

      • Killing that particular cat was a mercy killing, she was emicapated which increases how dangerous she is to children and domestic animals alike. Starving animals are particularly dangerious as she demonstrated by being in their yard in broad daylight. Not normal fyi.Neither cougar nor wolves are endangered and both can be shot when they pose a threat, they pose a serious threat if seen in ones yard.We have a right to protect ourselves from wild animals or crazy people and sicko lunatics of the like posting that the children should be cougar prey.

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      • The boy was inside the home.There was no threat anymore. You are an idiot. Emicapated is not a word. How about if someone deemed you as a mercy killing because you were hungry? You get to choose what animals deserve to live, and which need to be killed for “mercy”?  What a dummy..

    • Die

  • It’s hilarious how everyone can scream about “poaching” while ignoring the very real damage that these cats and dogs cause. I wonder if GRL2014 would scream as loud if one of these animals was dragging her pet, livestock, or even herself into the brush for dinner…

  • Time for the cougars to win a round….maybe drag the 9yr old off and show it’s cougar family…we won this round.

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    • Are you really that sick? What kind of human being actually wants to see a 9 yr. old child die becaused they’re pissed about a predatory animal being killed? You need help…

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      • The kind of ugly old hag with no kids and is on welfare with a house full of cats, dogs, pythons etc., that’s who.

  • this family is everything that is WRONG with hunting!  Now they are training the young children to break the laws too?  Here’s hoping that just one time the cougar wins, and drags the dead kid to show it’s family.

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    • You are one sick twisted old bitch.

  • Hope they get put in prison for eternity!I really dont mind if they suffer in jail..

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    • Wow you are a moron, people like you shouldn’t be allowed out in public.

  • So what?

  • Does anyone believe anything that comes out of this families mouth?  The grandfather is a poacher and a convicted wildlife criminal….the son too.  The apple never falls far from the tree.  This is the rural west for you.  Because these people live in the wilderness they think they have ownership and control over it.  The inbred daughter killed a starving animal….and the rest of the bumpkins were quick to encourage them.  

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    • SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!! Calling a young girl inbred, what kind of human are YOU? Apparently you care more about wild animals then you do humans. She is a remarkable young girl and she had a LEGAL tag that the government issued.

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      • i also care more about wildlife than humans, duh. 

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      • Don’t be surprised one day if you get treated like wildlife boy.

  •  Shane Kavanaugh, please accept that the cats are not fairly described as exotic animals of our region at all they are native as are so many others species. You may mean to say beautiful or another description of them. That opinion is shared by all i’m sure,,especially those fortunate enough to both observe the animals in their chosen habitat and harvest them as well,,NOW THEN to just make sure the family controls their urges out of season for ANY reason.

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    • And harvest them as well?  Ya mean like turnips?

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      • You’re obviously a city-boy.

  • That last statement above said by William White is FACT i’m sure it is. The folks that are living where these animals are thriving are the ones faced with dealing with the loss of fear of humans at times more frequent than what the average person would accept having to deal with. NO they don’t just run away, they don’t have to they have huge fangs and claws and know exactly how to use them quickly. The whole idea of eliminating dog use for hunting cougars years ago has resulted in exactly the problem that my children’s great grandfather told us all occur AND in the same time frame which he predicted as well. Within 1 year there were increased “sightings” of these beautiful deadly cats on the west side of our state to alarm and within 2 years they’d begun to case children in there own backyards and school playgrounds. Imagine how amazed I was to hear repeated times all the children at schools were rushed indoors from playgrounds. I know that by now the population doesn’t have the same number of out of place cats but instead theyve found their way in great numbers into areas like Methow where this White family resides. Suprising that it mentioned here how the state couldn’t figure out why so many cats are found living in one area. You’re KIDDING right? FOOD in a proper environment is why they’re there! AND THAT’S EXACTLY WHERE MORE TAGS SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THE WHITES and other hunters as well. No do NOT eliminate them theyre beautiful. But they are damn near like housecats they multiply rapidly and have even less fear than housecats by alot. Step on the tail of your kitty with your hand down there too and see what happens. Cats hate dogs and now we are raising generations of cats thatll have limited fear of dogs if any fear, bad descision that is!  

  • What amazing luck. The only person in the family who could legally kill a cougar just happened to be present when a cougra came a calling. Praise the Lord.

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    • Legally maybe the parents couldn’t use the rifle, but morally they have the right.  The right to keep and bear arms is a God-given right.

  • I hear those people actually caught that particular cat in a live trap that was only checked once every couple of weeks and thats why the cat looks so bad! Sick, sick people.

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    • You heard? Jesus…I heard that I was the only living heir to a Saudi prince and all I have to do is send the lawyer my bank account number so he can deposit my $56,000,000…

  • A 50 pound cat that is half starved is pretty impressive.

  • I like how the family is refered to as a “clan” in multiple instances throughout the artcle. Illegal hunting is not something I condone, but neither is manipulation by the media. This is a good story to tell, but I don’t need you to paint their guilt for me. Maybe in this instance she was protecting her brother – that’s not for you, or me to decide.

  • Does anyone else think they look a bit inbred?  The Whites, not the animals…

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    • Don’t you have some legal paperwork to file?

    • No, but you do.

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    • HA! Thats the first thing I thought, heck ya they look inbred!

    • Irrelevant ad hominem attack. Way to go, Katherine Whitless!

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      • hope they put them in prison

      • This family is a pitiful attempt at showing how rural people live, they are poachers, nothing more.  Hope the cat wins next time!

    • How do you know what “inbred” looks like?

    • No but that dude in your photo is probably your brother and husband at the same time.

  • Health and Human services needs to get out there and figure out if these people are raising their kids to be felons.

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    • They are raising their children to be hunters.  That is a legal and natural thing for people to do.  They are more in tune with being human than apparently you are.  The girl had a tag and the cats are over-running the area.  If you want the cats that bad, let them live in your back yard.  Otherwise, get of the kid’s back.I don’t condone the father’s poaching, but you don’t know the whole story, either.  Sometimes with wolves and cats, you have to kill or be killed.  They obviously live right in the woods, and are used to surviving close to nature.  You probably don’t have a clue what that is like if your fall-back is HHS.

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      • So Archie- calling Tom white a hunter is quite the stretch isn’t it?  whiphoto to shows his sporting profile?  Maybe the wolf with his tongue hanging out?

      • They aren’t teaching their kids how to hunt…they are teaching their kids how to kill illegal trophies.  Hunting should be for providing food for the table and nothing else!  If you aren’t going to EaT IT DON’T KILL IT

    • You mean like the people on this site who advocate their children being killed?

  • Sadics and sick people. It’s exactly like “The hills have eyes”. They should have all their firearms confiscated.

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    • I agree..

    • You should have your hands confinscated so you can’t type your BS.

  • Not a surprise that they raised a monster.

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    • You don’t know jack about anything that family has to go through.  You might as well be from a different planet.  

  • So let’s unpack this a bit. Members of this young Lady’s family have, at some point in the past, pled guilty to game-law violations. Even more damning, a member of an org dedicated to foisting wolves back onto people who mostly want no part of them dislikes the family.Well hell, that’s enough for me, she MUST be guilty of SOMETHING. A fifty-pound cat can take a grown man down in one jump, let alone a young boy…but that little fact kinda takes the juice out of the story, doesn’t it.

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    • These type people love to kill animals from a distance, with no chance of defending themselves. It’s not out of protecting themselves, rather the thrill of killing something. Showing the calf looks more like it got loose and froze/straved to death. Even if it was true they claim; what is it that humans will do to a living calf in 12 months or so? Cut it in half while still alive! Every picture I have ever seen with a hunter/”sportsman” and their victims, shows them smiling. It’s a sickness, not to be glorified and given such protection by the government.

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      • You DO realize that hunting is not about “man versus animal” in a fight to the death, right? It was never mant to be “Let them get close so they have a shot at getting you first.”

      • I agree 100% And the fact that they killed endangered species is appalling.

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      • You don’t have a freaking clue. For one, cattle are killed via a pneumatically powered steel rod through their brain. Death is quick and painless, the hours and days leading up to it are much worse (being penned in tight quarters and smelling death and blood all around them). Second, I will guarantee that the overwhelming majority of hunters and sportsmen ar much closer to nature than most most posters here will ever be. I’m a longtime hunter, as are most members of my family and none of us will tolerate cruelty or suffering of an animal if we can prevent it. FWIW killing an animal is not cruel when done properly, but yes, the hunt can be fun and challenging. Most non-hunters don’t, and never will, get it.

      • Yeah because we like killing, unlike effeminate weaklings such as yourself.

    • One other thing. Mr. White says, “We’re trying to follow the law as best we can.” So this girl’s brothers, father and grandfather didn’t take action because they were following the law the best they can? Meanwhile, they leave the boy’s life in the hands of the girl, without trying to kill the sick female cougar themselves? More than fishy, it stinks of BS! These people show have all their firearms confiscated!

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      • Wait, the story is about the family getting in trouble for illegaly killing animals, which they apparently got in trouble for (BTW, how do they still have their weapons if they wereconvicted of felony poaching?, yet you seem to advocate them doing something else illegal? That’s like telling a convicted car thief that it’s ok to borrow your neighbor’s car without his permission and expecting them to trust you…

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    • These people are morons. They kill livestock- what do we do? “It’s either them or us” So go~take out all the apex predators, see what that does to your ecosystem ^%%$head. Does anyone understand Biology anymore!

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      • Do you understand the word predatation?

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      • no, we dont know what it means. probably because it’s not a word! keep proving your intelligence. 

    • The boy was already inside.

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